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• When KD Mahawangsa went to Lebanon recently to deliver new trucks, cendana auto FFRs, did they bring back the retired condors with them on the way back?

  • AFAIK no.

• No. If there is no more UNIFIL we should leave.

  Asking for the earth and sky of course but the Arabs should do more. The problem is the Arabs are too focus on regime survival, competeting against each other and ingratiating themselves with Uncle Sam. Shame on them, they hold so much influence and there's so much they can do but are unwilling to do more over Gaza.

• ... - "they bring back the retired condors with them on the way back"

  Why? Faster and more practical to dispose of them in Lebanon.

• Actually UNIFIL mandate will expire in 31 August 2025.

  I has always been an intrim mandate, renewed year by year.

  https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15801.doc.htm

  • Yes the mandate is annually renewed. But if Trump decide to cut the funds to UN next year, the UN will have to do something about its operations including the PK one.

• Agreed, we should leave. Heck we should have left before things gets soured. If we overstayed it will not be the ambit of a neutral nonpartisan force and it will be seen negatively by those their trying to protect. Its been shown that non neutral 'peacekeepers' IFOR, SFOR, KFOR, Aussies in Timor Leste, etc didnt come in thru proper channels and basically bull their in to be a big brother but then created more onto themselves eventually rather than amongst warring parties.

• KD Mahawangsa was already there in Lebanon at the time, returning back empty anyway.

  Not like we have to pay extra to bring it back.

  Those few with unifil number plates should be bought back to be historically preserved. Yeah of course history is not a very important part of malaysian culture anyway.

• Perhaps a peacekeeping operation in Korea should better be considered. I know this is an unserious proposal, but it at least could provide the exposure to the risks of actual conventional war against a potentialy very irrational belligerent, something the Malaysian Armed Forces needs to be especially familiarise itself with, and Malaysia actually risk facing.

• " IFOR, SFOR, KFOR, Aussies in Timor Leste, etc "

  Actually all of them are under a UN mandate, but the peacekeeping/peace enforcement executed/organised not by UN itself.

• ... - "Not like we have to pay extra to bring it back".

  For what payoff exactly? What do we lose by disposing them there as opposed to bringing them back and diposing them here?

  "Those few with unifil number plates should be bought back to be historically preserved"

  Isn't like those were the 1st to serve under the UN or something significant happened in which the said Condor participated in.

  Nabil - "of actual conventional war against a potentialy very irrational belligerent, something the Malaysian Armed Forces needs to be especially familiarise itself with, and Malaysia actually risk facing"

  The threat posed by North Korea with its nukes and chemicals is unlike anything we face.

• "it will be seen negatively by those their trying to protect"

  In the areas our troops are based there is a good relationship with the local community which values the presence of local troops. In the areas where there were incidents; it was in areas where our troops were passing through and on which there were no ties to the locals.

  "that non neutral ‘peacekeepers’ IFOR, SFOR, KFOR, Aussies in Timor Leste, etc didnt come in thru proper channels"

  Bosnia, Kosovo and East Timor were UN sanctioned and the presence of foreign troops led to peace. Also note that the locals were dismayed and even protested when foreign troops left or scales down their presence.