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• Even tho its during Hari Raya period but too bad its still on weekdays Thurs & Fri :(
  Some of us still have to work thru the week and such unfortunately so I could not go for the open day :( :(

  Hopefully next time TLDM would have it on a weekend.

• "Entrance is free though only Malaysians will be allowed into the ships"

  This is bizarre. Granted hardly any foreigners will go but why exclude them? For what possible reason? This is the first time such a restriction has been imposed. I hope nobody's silly enough to cite security reasons as there is nothing of security value to be gained: not as if visitors are allowed access to the CIC [which anyhow is always padlocked when the ship's moored] or the ship's magazine [also always padlocked with keys by the officer on duty].

  I've been to Open Days in various countries over the years; none were ever restricted to nationals for the simple reason that there are/were security risks.

  " Resident Naval Officer Penang"

  Not many are aware there is such a post. The only RMN asset in the state however is a bungalow.

• IMHO doing it on weekdays is one way to keeps the crowd "small and manageable".

• It will be at least by 2026-2027 before we could see RMN Fleet given a new updated look. Hopes we could get stop gap measure hull meantime to keep things in the balance while LCS, 2nd Batch LMS and NGPV plus MPSS materialize. IMO, Arming the Kedah NGPV would be most cost and time effective measure.

• ” Resident Naval Officer Penang”

  This is a historical post form the royal navy days.

  Originally the RNO facilitates the smooth running of port operations for all visiting Royal Navy Ships and vessels, at a port where there is no permanent naval base that could support ship visits, and requires civilian port support.

  Other current TLDM RNO post is in Kuching Sarawak, and allegedly also in Lumut (why is this is not known). There are also former RNO posts in Sabah, but permanent TLDM bases are now built where there was one, so RNO post is replaced with CO.

  IMO a location that can have a RNO post is in Port Klang, where foreign naval ships frequently visits and uses the cruise terminal jetty.

  • There is no need for a RNO in Port Klang, they already the Hydrography centre there, headed by a one star.

• Selamat Hari Raya to Marhalim and everybody!

  • Thanks Tom Tom

• "Granted hardly any foreigners will go but why exclude them? For what possible reason?"
  Everyone will have different perception to security, some would only one lock on their door, some would have two locks, others have 3 locks, and maybe some have even more. Just cuz other nation have laxer security doesn't mean we should follow. As I said before we have reasons for our own security levels placed and this should/would extend to dealings with 3rd parties.

• ''Everyone will have different perception to security, some would only one lock on their door''

  The doors of the CIC and other places are always locked when ships are moored irrespective of the navy. One padlock is the norm from what I've personally seen. Yes I'm keenly aware that everyone has ''different perception to security'' but that wasn't the point.

  ''As I said before we have reasons for our own security levels placed and this should/would extend to dealings with 3rd parties.''

  ''As I said before'' : I'm curious as to why we would place such restrictions given there is nothing of value to be gained; from anyone; be it foreigners or locals who board a ship and who are only granted access to the main and quarter deck; plus maybe the hangar. At times even access to the bridge is denied and if it isn't it's supervised.

  ''Just cuz other nation have laxer security doesn’t mean we should follow. ''

  Nor did anyone imply we should did they now...? I only alluded to the fact that I've been on Open Days in various countries [none of whom are known for ''lax'' security'']; there were no restrictions on who could board for the simple reason that there is nothing sensitive which can be compromised. Doesn't mean these navies ''have laxer security'' or that I was suggesting we be lax or that countries not have a different attitude towards security...

• "One padlock is the norm from what I’ve personally seen."
  Its just an example where different person would lock up their houses differently; one might only use 1 lock, some might go up to 3-4 locks on their front door. No right or wrong here as different person will have different perception to their security. The same goes for different nations towards the security of their military equipment.

  "I’m curious as to why we would place such restrictions given there is nothing of value to be gained"
  A lot of assumptions would have to be made if want to speculate but I guess even TLDM would have to make certain assumptions and weigh the risks involved if foreign agents were to infiltrate onboard the ship. It would have to assume that Msian citizen would not intentionally seek to detriment the ship, or that a ship's position could be tracked by the foreign party thru simply dropping something as innocuous as an Apple Airtag, or perhaps even if sensitive areas are off limits that sabotage on noncritical areas (ie pipes or cables routing) could still cripple a ship during operations. And many other potential risks could have been weighted by TLDM head honchos when presenting their ships to the public.

  "Nor did anyone imply we should did they now…?"
  This was a followon to my argument with you regarding building TLDM naval ships at civvie yards or other local yards that has to be security vetted. You mentioned you do not see the necessity as other nations would not care but TLDM might have a different opinion, just as they have a different perception to ship security than you have.

• Happy Navy Day