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MRCA: Rafale and the Master

SHAH ALAM: DASSAULT Aviation has teamed up with the Weststar Group to offer the Rafale for the MRCA programme, industry sources have revealed to Malaysian Defence. It was probably this industrial collaboration – led by Weststar – that led to various stories coming out from France that claimed the deal for the Rafale was imminent.

Unfortunately for them, it was another defence deal that Weststar’s subsidiary, Global Komited Sdn Bhd, signed for recently. The deal. Apart from this contract, Global Komited has also won contracts to supply the various types of 4X4s to the Army and recently the IAG Jaws APC to the police.

Malaysian Defence contacted Weststar for comments for this story, however, no comments were forthcoming.

Industry sources told Malaysian Defence that among others, if the Rafale was selected, at least 15 of the aircraft will be locally assembled by Weststar, which is also expected to lead the ISS for the fighters.

Alenia Aermacchi M346 Master advanced jet trainer.

Apart from the local assembly, the Rafale team -according to the industry sources – is also offering the Alenia Aermacchi M346 advanced trainer aircraft as part of the deal. Details surrounding this part of the deal is limited however.

Alenia Aermacchi M346 Master at the Singapore Air Show 2012

So what is the likely deal on offer? Most likely that the M346 will replaced the six MB339CMs LIFT in service with Pulatibang 3 at the Kuantan Airbase.

RMAF MB339CM

As the M346s will replace the CMs, the former’s FMS is expected to be part of the deal replacing the latter which is operational at the Kuantan airbase.

The M346 Full Mission Simulator

But wouldnt adding another aircraft will increased the cost of the Rafale offer then? Technically, no, as the trainer jets will be “FOC” as part of the package deal. We will have to pay for the cost of support and maintenance of course.

A Rafale pictured in a F3R standard weapon load, AASM Hammer for strike missions and MICA and Meteor missiles for air-to-air work and extra fuel tanks.

Like the British, the French are aware that their aircraft (Rafale) is quite pricey. By offering the Master as part of a package deal, it hoped to kill two birds at the same time. Fulfilled the MRCA requirement with some economic justification while at the same time solved the looming LIFT gap as no upgrades are slated for the two jet trainers in RMAF in the near future.

Alenia Aermacchi MB339CM

As the Master is also capable conducting similar roles as the Hawks, it would also be the obvious candidate for the mission – extra ones – when the time come to retire them (Hawks). Anyhow, if the Typhoon is chosen instead, Alenia will still benefit from it. And it could still offer the M346 separately to RMAF for the LIFT and light strike missions.

A CGI imagery of modular weapon launchers on the Typhoon.

Before anyone say T50, do note that, yes, I am aware that the plane is cheaper and more popular, than either the Hawk AJT and M346. However as the F16 or for that matter the F35 have not been selected for the MRCA programme, it is unlikely that the T50 will offered as part of a package. Honestly I don’t think Boeing is that desperate to offer the T50, bearing in mind the TX programme of the USAF.

That said I stand to be corrected.

Personally I think RMAF should get out of the LIFT and light strike role completely and send its trainee fast jet pilots to train overseas. It will be much cheaper than operating several LIFT and light strike squadrons.

RMAF Hawk 208 M40-34 taking off during Eks Paradise 2/2015 at Labuan airbase.

What about the light strike role then? Well what is the use of the MRCAs if its not used for this type of missions? Its not like we are going to run into low intensity conflict that often. The Hornets were used during Lahad Datu so its not that the MRCA – which ever aircraft chosen – cannot do the same thing.

A Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) F/A-18D M45-02 Hornet aircraft lands at RMAF base Butterworth, Malaysia, June 11, 2014, during Cope Taufan 2014. Note the bomb markings on the nose U.S. Air Force photo.

Yes, using a light strike aircraft in a permissive environment is cheaper but having three or four different type of fast jets are considerably more expensive. It is time for RMAF to cut down its aircraft inventory to reflect its budgetary realities. Which is why the MRCA programme is the best chance for it to do so though I admit the initial investment costs is simply staggering.

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View Comments (34)

  • If its assembled in Malaysia for just 15 aircraft , who is going to pay for the infrastructure to built the aircraft?

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    Singaporeans...

  • T50 golden eagles has nothing to do with Boeing. It is a Lockheed martin - KAI product.

    Btw a lot of my comments has gone missing...

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    Of course it is a LM product

  • By the way, just to mention that the Qatar deal for 24 rafales cost usd 7 billion. That is more than the cost of the gowind+scorpene+samudra's+av8 gempita+Ec735+a400m+su30mkm combined!!!

  • I would like to see RMAF maintain 2 type of aircrafts.
    1. F18d and Advance Superhornet
    2. Su-30mkm...

    fullstop

  • We can afford the rafale......just cancel the MRT 2nd Line and High Speed Rail to SG...walla you got the allocation already... but of course it a dreamland story only la

  • These cost comparisons are very hard to make. We have no idea what specs and services are included from country to country.

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    yes but basically that the same price for the export version of the Rafale

  • Yes, agree that we need not have a cheap fighter just to bomb the occasional Sabah intrusion.

    But there will always be a need for air sovereignty patrols that can be handled by a cheap fighter.

    This need not be a new M346 or Hawk or T-50, the cheapest to buy and operate will do, such as early block F-16s from AMARC.

  • There again the melayu tends to be cheated by the org putih with all the bling bling...guys cant u see if ever we keep changing to newer training platform n newer mrca...we get shining toys but the amount is still be the same forever...remember what we need is up to date platform n at the same time increase the amount of these platform to 2 folds or 3...the basic needs stil is up to date platform n increase in numbers

  • Like I said, just get the 2nd hand Typhoons from the RAF. Last time I mentioned it, everyone went poo, poo!!! Taboo subject, second hand aircraft.

    Why does the RMAF need another MRCA aircraft? It's to replace the Mig 29 which is air defence anyway. Get some Meteor AA missiles and air borne SAAB early warning with the money and that will be OK for the time being. The only way to grow the defence budget is to grow the GDP. Hopefully, won't be long before its 1.5-2% of 500 billion USD.

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    Its a lease buy deal, we cannot lay our hands on the second hand Typhoons unless we signed for the new ones.