SHAH ALAM: Last August, Malaysian Defence wrote about the tender for the procurement of the Carl Gustav 84mm recoilless rifle, specifically for the M4 variant of the weapon. Today, another tender for M4 variant of the Goose was published in Eperolehan.
The August tender was for 2000 rounds of the high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) 551 version. The latest one is for 1300 HE rounds. As reported previously, the Army is getting 110 M4 launchers and unspecified number of munitions from a tender awarded to Global Combined Technology Sdn Bhd.
The public specifications of the tender:
MEMBEKAL DAN MENGHANTAR ROUNDS 84MM RECOILLESS HIGH EXPLOSIVE (HE) UNTUK TENTERA DARAT MALAYSIA
(TDM)
The 84 mm Recoilless High Explosive (HE) round is intended to
inflict casualty on the ground troops in the open area, behind the
cover or in the slit trenches and to inflict damage on soft skin
vehicle. This HE round shall be able to destroy the target using air
burst detonation or set for impact. It shall be able to use with Carl
Gustaf M4 Recoilless Anti-Tank Rifle.
The 21-day tender for the HE rounds closes on October 22. Meanwhile, the tender for the HEAT rounds only attracted a single bidder. This was likely as only Saab made rounds are specified for the M4 version of the Goose. All other makes will void the warranty.
The sole bid for the 2000 rounds is RM29 million plus change. Meanwhile, seven bidders qualified for the 113 sets of vehicle mounted VHF radios for the Army also published last August. The highest bidder is RM39.938.670 million, just slightly higher than the indicative cost of RM39.938 million. The other six bids were lower than the indicative cost with one coming in at RM35.045.820 million.
The tender for 30mm rounds for the MMEA also published last August, has also not concluded at this point. Three bidders took part in the tender with the highest at RM2.499 million, second RM2.254 million and the lowest at RM1.974 million.
— Malaysian Defence
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"using other makes will void warranty"
What an anti consumer behavior. This is no better than HP trying to force its end users to use HP brand inks
Not when one spend millions to come up with a better product.
"All other makes will void the warranty."
Is it possible these new ammo are for existing Goose rather than the new ones, since it was mentioned the new buy would also include ammo too? If a tender only single bidder I doubt the beancounters will let it go thru for sake of transparency and will either cancel & open a new round of tender.
Of course if Im wrong and its for the new weapon then it makes sense to go back to OEM for the ammo but then I question why wasnt it included into the main purchase since it already comes with ammo too? Insufficient to meet a tender max price?
It will go through.
Nice. Hope more kaboom things will be buy.
Rock
No point just having'' kaboom'' things if we lack the means or supporting things to effectively employ them.
On warranty issues; of course OEMs will make a stand. If a customer uses a non approved product and something goes wrong; why should the OEM assist? If something is damaged because a customer used an iferior but cheaper alternative; who's responsible?
We should get a limited amount of the guided munitions....for testing
Why get it for ‘testing’?if we get them it will be for operational reasons. And if we do; what’s the benefit of having them over MBT LAW?
>what’s the benefit of having them over MBT LAW?
Being much cheaper as SAL missile is simpler than saclos (let alone f&f) missile. Also you already bought MZ4, why don't you buy something that will greatly improve its hit probability for not that much money
dundun - ''Being much cheaper as SAL missile is simpler than saclos (let alone f&f) missile.''
Pros and cons but both appear to have similar ranges.
dundun - ''Also you already bought MZ4, why don’t you buy something that will greatly improve its hit probability for not that much money''
I'm not saying we shouldn't; merely pointing out that we use carl Gustavs for a variety of things and there could be a reason - apart from cost issues - why we aren't buying guided rounds.
I think its about time to rethink of mounting the 84 on a 4x4 vehicle with a hard top.we need to be inovative n learn from previous and current wars how each other outwitting n outsmarting one another with unconventional weapons that has never been seen and thought of by this side of the world ( asian).
They are not mounting the Goose on the 4X4 just using the vehicles to carry the team and spare ammo. It is much easier than walking with them.
This is CG not SPG9 lmao.
Besides we have the 106mm recoilless rifle that could be mounted on vehicles.
I think the 106mm RR will be retired soon.