SHAH ALAM: Latest Gempita Variant To Enter Service. The latest Gempita 8X8 vehicle – the Armoured Engineer Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Reconnaissance Vehicle (AENBCRV) – is expected to enter service soon. Since its official acronym is a mouthful, I am going to call it Gempita NBC, when it enter service with the Army.
FNSS release.
The Armoured Engineer Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Reconnaissance Vehicle (AENBCRV)version of the AV-8 Wheeled Armoured Vehicle (WAV) developed by the FNSS and DRB HICOM Defence Technologies Sdn Bhd (DEFTECH) partnership for the Malaysian Army is preparing for delivery in the first half of this year.
Passing all tests with flying colours, the AV-8 AENBCRV entered the second and final stage of the qualification process, during which its endurance was tested.
The AV-8 AENBCRV is fitted with CBRN detection equipment and systems to detect and classify of any type of chemical, biological, radioactive or nuclear agents. The vehicle can determine and classify the hazard zone and alert other military units and civilians of potential dangers, thus enabling them to take the necessary countermeasures.
Possessing a complex and modern system architecture and mission-specific equipment, the AENBCRV’s initial vehicle development processes – comprising conceptual design, detailed design, manufacturing and assembly – was carried out entirely by FNSS.
The ongoing qualification tests serve to demonstrate that the vehicle fully and comprehensively meets the requirements set by the user. The first stage of these tests, involving Land Performance Tests and CBRN System Tests, has already been completed after being carried out at FNSS’ facilities in Ankara. The second stage of the tests – the Endurance Tests – were launched in Malaysia in February 2019 Following the successful completion of these tests, the acceptance and delivery of the first vehicle to the end user will take place in Malaysia in the upcoming days.
Under the project, four AENBCRV vehicles will be delivered, the first of which will be the vehicle that completed its qualification tests. The remaining three vehicles will be manufactured and delivered by FNSS by 2020.
FIRST 8X8 CRBN Vehicle
The AV-8 AENBCRV stands out as the first 8×8 CBRN vehicle to be developed by FNSS. The components of the CBRN system, as the main mission equipment aboard the vehicle, was procured from domestic and foreign suppliers in line with the user’s preferences. FNSS has also conducted indigenisation works on some of the CBRN system’s subsystems, thus aiding domestic subcontractors in acquiring new competencies.
Commenting on this latest milestone reached by the company with the AV-8 WAV project, K. Nail Kurt, General Manager and CEO of FNSS, said: “The AV-8 WAV project continues to be the single largest defence system export contract signed by Turkey in the field of land systems, and it is also one of the most complex projects in its field due to the large number of vehicle configurations involved.
Integrated with a wide variety of mission equipment, the AENBCRV is the one of the AV-8’s most challenging configurations to date. We have fashioned the vehicle in close contact with the user, ensuring they are supplied with the specific capabilities they need. Our vehicle is now proving itself in rigorous tests, and I believe that it will pass all of these with great success, becoming the best in its class and joining the inventory of the friendly and allied nation of Malaysia. With this vehicle, both FNSS and the Turkish defence sector have acquired very important capabilities. In the upcoming period, we are ready to meet with the best solutions any need that the Turkish Armed Forces and friendly and allied nations may have in this particular area.”
— Malaysian Defence
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This is a great news!
I believe we now have more than 100 gempitas delivered to the army. Any news of the latest number and when the last one is to be delivered?
Eh? So this NBC variant is CBU from Turkey, not locally assembled like the other variants?
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Based on the release it is
Just to list down the variant and numbers
78 IFV30
46 IFV25
54 LCT30
8 120mm mortar
24 VINTAQS reconnaissance
13 Command
9 Ambulances
9 ARV Recovery
9 Maintenance
4 NBC reconnaissance
3 SIGINT/Communication
Right now it seems that the gempita numbers are enough for just 1 Mechanized Battalion and the 4 Cavalry Regiments (this is just enough to replace the SIBMAS, so it will still be a mix of Gempita and Condor for at least now). I hope that there will be a 2nd batch of the Gempitas, for additional 2 Mechanized brigade, to transform the 4th Mechanised Brigade into a full wheeled IFV Brigade.
My idea for Malaysian future armoured/mechanized formations...
the 3rd Division to be a fully armoured/mechanized.
3rd Division is based in West Malaysia.
?nd Royal Engineers Regiment
?nd Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers Corps
- 3rd Division Artillery HQ
2nd Royal Artillery Regiment (Kluang, Johor) Hawkeye 105mm J-LTV
22nd Royal Artillery Regiment (Sikamat Camp, Seremban, Negeri Sembilan) M109A5+
7th Royal Artillery Regiment (Kuantan, Pahang) Hawkeye 105mm J-LTV
- 1st Armour Brigade (Rasah Camp, Seremban, N. Sembilan)
11th Royal Armour Corps (Syed Sirajuddin Camp, Gemas, Negeri Sembilan) 44 PT-91M 30 MIFV
12th Royal Armour Corps (Sunggala Camp, Port Dickson) 44 PT-91M 30 MIFV
14th Royal Malay Regiment (Rasah Camp, Seremban, Negeri Sembilan) 100 Adnan
15th Royal Malay Regiment (Rasah Camp, Seremban, Negeri Sembilan) 100 Adnan
- 4th Mechanised Brigade (Batu 10 Camp, Kuantan, Pahang)
19th Royal Malay Regiment (Mech) (Lapangan Terbang Camp, Sungai Petani, Kedah) 70 AV8 28 J-LTV
7th Royal Ranger Regiment (Mech) (Batu 5 Camp, Mentakab, Pahang) 70 AV8 28 J-LTV
12th Royal Malay Regiment (Mech) (Daralockwood Camp, Kuantan,
Pahang) 70 AV8 28 J-LTV
505th Territorial Army Regiment (Mech) (Teluk Sisik Camp, Kuantan,
Pahang)
1st Royal Armour Corps (Batu 10 Camp, Kuantan, Pahang) 44 AV8 34 J-LTV
- 7th Infantry Brigade (Mahkota Camp, Kluang, Johor)
5th Royal Malay Regiment (Batu Tiga Camp, Kluang, Johor) 70 AM4 28 J-LTV
10th Royal Malay Regiment (Bukit Banang Camp, Batu Pahat, Johor) 70 AM4 28 J-LTV
6th Royal Ranger Regiment (Ulu Tiram Camp, Johor bharu, Johor) 70 AM4 28 J-LTV
501st Territorial Army Regiment (Tebrau Camp, Johor Bharu, Johor)
* AM4 would be a APC/MRAP that could carry 3 crew + 8 dismounts, to cost no more than USD1 million each. Benchmark - Singaporean Belrex.
* J-LTV to be bought off the shelf, costing no more than USD450k each
Complement:
1 Mechanized Gempita (3 battalions)
48+6 IFV25
6 Command
4 120mm mortar
2 Ambulances
2 ARV
2 Maintenance
28 J-LTV (6 HWC, 6 ATGM, 12 GP, 4 ambulance)
1 CAVALRY RGT (Kor Armor Diraja) (4 regiments)
24 IFV30
12 LCT30
4 Command
2 ARV
2 Maintenance
34 J-LTV (12 HWC, 6 VINTAQS, 12 GP, 4 ambulance)
1 Mechanized (3+2 Battalions) *1 mechanized battalion each in Sabah & Sarawak
48+6 AM4 APC
6 AM4 command
2 AM4 ambulance
4 AM4 maintenance
4 AM4 logistic
28 J-LTV (6 HWC, 6 ATGM, 12 GP, 4 ambulance)
The real question is will there be a 2nd batch order of AV8 Gempitas? Rather than upgrading the Sibmas, Condor and etc, replacing them all into one common platform is more efficient. We can drive the mtnc cost down by employing the economic of scale. This will make investing on more variants like for SAM or 105mm AT cannon more sensible.
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That's the one million dollar question isn't it...
FNSS also recently showed Omani Pars III engineering vehicle.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ExTt2fceUus/XMLBFn3jNCI/AAAAAAABuOI/t8rF9-i9xQ8A8Q7qKjbnD1WRNLpPbB1uACLcBGAs/s1600/pars-8x8-istihdam-araci-haber-3.jpg
Mine clearing plough
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CLK1vSO_1Do/XMLBFt-Y0jI/AAAAAAABuOM/Z5dqatN20RsVFkBuwAUJ3-VT9kBL8tubACLcBGAs/s1600/pars-8x8-istihdam-araci-haber.jpg
Off topic
Looks like 10 PARA support company is seriously looking at reviving its long stored 106mm recoiless. Any reasons for this?
https://scontent.fkul16-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/58571197_2647158638646368_5762405368747524096_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul16-1.fna&oh=23fa26bb5d10951fe629f01a89d8b173&oe=5D71EF9F
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Based on the BTDM posting, I believed the test firings were done to forward to the Army hq that the weapon is already obsolete, hence the involvement of STRIDE. It is likely that the Army HQ got flak from the ministry for declaring the Scorpions obsolete and calling for its retirement and asking for replacement without referring to any one.
Which of our potential threats employ chemical weapons though?
Costs and numbers for the gempita 2nd batch.
Most of us knows how much is the cost of the gempita 1st batch. It is insanely high but that includes all the "national capability development" of R&D of the various variants and also the manufacturing capabilities and infrastructures. It also probably includes all the ammo and ingwe missiles that comes with the gempita.
With all those costs already paid for, a 2nd batch of gempita should be of a significantly cheaper cost.
To have the required numbers as my plan above, a buy of around 180 more gempitas would be needed. This would consist mainly of the IFV25 variant.
As for the cost, an average target price of USD3 million for each new gempita batch 2 would be ideal. This is based on a few comparison of current IFV prices (Israel Eitan, Oman PARS III etc). There should also be no new gempita variants, so no R&D costs. That would give a total cost of less than USD550 million, which could be paid for with tentera darat budget within 1 rancangan malaysia.
@ Chua
Bombing of our water processing plants could release deadly chlorine gases. It would also be useful in surveying destroyed industrial areas for hazardous chemicals in war, before the larger forces move in. CBRNe capabilities are also useful in chemical emergencies such as in pasir gudang recently.
@chua
terrorism threat using dirty bomb
Looks like 10 PARA support company is seriously looking at reviving its long stored 106mm recoiless. Any reasons for this?
On that matter, which units of ours fielded the 106 and when was it retired? Wikipedia lists Malaysia as having 24 guns.
Found some info here on where we got them and what we mounted them on.
https://www.malaysiandefence.com/weststar-gk-m1-weapon-platform/