SHAH ALAM: JF-17 at LIMA 19. Sino Pakistani JF-17 may make it’s debut in Malaysia this March, if everything goes to plan that is.
No one has confirmed the participation of the JF-17 but the likely debut of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) Tejas LCA at the biennial Langkawi air show this March, will definitely put pressure on Pakistan to send it’s own fighter jet to Malaysia.
Avic/PAC JF-17. Wikipedia commons
I was told that the Lima organisers had already asked the Pakistan government, defense ministry and the manufacturer, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) to get at least one JF-17 – even on static display – at LIMA 19. I was told the response have been lukewarm so far so the news that HAL is sending the Tejas to Langkawi may change the equation.
AVIC/PAC JF-17. YouTube
Again, it must be noted that both India and Pakistan have not yet confirmed officially that they are bringing their aircraft to Langkawi. Both countries have been invited to bring their military planes and ships to Langkawi for LIMA and it is likely both are willing to that. Bringing the Tejas and JF-17 are the icing in the cake as people like to say.
AVIC/PAC JF-17. Wikipedia
Recently pictures and videos of JF-17 in service with Myanmar Air Force were uploaded to various social media channels, proof that it is the first export customer of the type. Myanmar together with China and Pakistan have yet to confirm officially that the aircraft are in service in the neighbouring Asean country, however.
AVIC/PAC KF-17 of Myanmar Air Force. Internet.
Whether or not this will have any effect on the aircraft potential for RMAF, is beyond me. I am of the opinion that both the Tejas and JF-17 are not suitable for Malaysia, however. My opinion is of course not important.
The JF-17 has had a charmed life in Malaysia with Reuters news agency reporting that it was among the candidates for the MRCA project. It was never, ever considered actually for the MRCA.
As for the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) requirement of which the Tejas is also being pushed for, the project remains in the wish list of the RMAF and it’s not yet been green lighted. Perhaps within late this year we may have inkling whether the funding will be made available or not. The attitude which prevailed over Jalan Padang Tembak – the same one for the last 40 years – does not inspire confidence,
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Picture of Myanmar 1704. This picture is actually from 2017
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u-Kq0l2BJKI/WaLnipZpfjI/AAAAAAAALgc/4Ruxe3H_jscvIJu8HlleFzEWjfxcp2QVwCLcBGAs/s1600/DIJvvVmUIAI4LDj.jpg
With weapons in Dec 2018
https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/48370307_913642362175385_8137410545566351360_n-jpg.527120/
Two seater JF-17 prototype
https://www.aviationsmilitaires.net/media/pictures/C-ZDDHIUIAA0Icc.jpg
Anyway what about T-50 or FA-50 participation this year? Any from Thailand, Indonesia or even The Philippines?
If both really do come, they must be kept poles apart; East-West, North-South. We certainly don't want a 'Kashmir' on our hand.
It is good if Malaysia can consider JF-17 as a LCA squadron.
Acctually JF-17 is the best aircraft if we can get the latest version.Latest version of the JF-17 is even better in some aspect compared to region aircraft fighter such as Indonesian F-16 block 15 and Block32+ and also un-upgrade version of Thailand F-16 Block 15 OCU.
Why not the J10 rather than Tejas or JF17? on paper J10 is equivalent to F16 c block 50 and above with price only 20% higher than JF17, while is Teja even already operational?
Just throwing question only..not really a preference
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I am not sure whether China is willing to sell the J10 to us
Best replacement for Hawk 200/100
Abu,the JF-17 is even better in some aspect compared to region aircraft fighter such as Indonesian F-16 block 15 and Block32+ , can you share your points? very interesting indeed.
@ alpha zulu
The current block 2 JF-17 and also the proposed block 2+ supposedly offered to azerbaijan is quite a capable aircraft.
As it is, it is cleared to deploy various chinese, western, brazil and turkish weapons and equipment.
Some if the weapons it can deploy:
CM-400AKG – Hypersonic Carrier Killer
Ra’ad – Stealth Stand off Cruise Missile (Nuclear Capable)
C-802AK – Multirole Attack Cruise Missile
SD-10A – Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missile
MAR-1 – Anti Radiation Missile
MAA-1, AIM-9L/M, PL-05EII – Within Visual Range Air to Air Missile
CBU-100 – Anti Armor Cluster Bombs
GBU-10/12 – LT-2 – Laser Guided Smart Munitions
LS-6 – GPS Guided Direct Attack Munitions
H-4 – long ranged (120+ km) Stand of weapon
HAFR-1– Anti Runway Bomb
Takbir Satellite Guided Stand off Munition
LS-Series – Satellite Guided Glide Munitions
The block 2+ is to be supplied with an AESA radar.
alpha,
... on January 14, 2019 at 9:28 pm already answered your question but here I want to add some.
Latest version of JF-17 fitted with AESA radar and JHMCS like system where as today this both tecnology still not equip to the old version Indonesia and Thailand F16.
Some of the Indonesia F16 also (from Peace Bima Sena 1) still can't do a BVR if we compared to the latest Block of JF-17.
CMIIW.Thank You.
Frankly, I think many previous participants have realised the bullshit we keep putting out that Malaysia is a potential customer. We've been spinning that story for the past 10-plus years with no real action.
Re: JF-17
Once again, the question is whether we are going Chinese or staying Western. The JF-17s may launch a wide array of weapons but so does the FA-50. The difference is that we have at least some AMRAAMs and GBUs etc in inventory but no Chinese weapons at all.
Oh, and you can forget trying to use those "carrier killers" to threaten Liaoning or Shandong in the SCS, because they are guided by the Chinese satellite system, it would be child's play for the PRCs to program a denial of service to exported weapons in the event of a conflict.