SHAH ALAM: IT appears that the RMN LMS Batch 2, the Ada class, will be a Malaysian variant after all. The front part of the ship will be like the Turkish, Pakistani and Ukrainian variants. The rear of the ship will be like the Pakistani and Ukrainian variants apart that it will be equipped with Korean made vertical launch system.
While the Pakistani and Ukrainian ships will be equipped with MBDA Albatross and MICA VL missiles, the RMN version is likely to be equipped with Hanwha Aerospace VLS and likely the LIG Next K-SAAM surface to air missiles.
The K-SAAM Block 1 missiles have a range of up to 20km It is unclear how many missiles will be fitted on the LMS Batch 2 but the model of the ship at the RMN booth two VLS launchers on the rear of the ship just before the hangar.
One of the VLS may well be carrying two K-SAAM so the LMS Batch 2 can carry eight SAMs. There is also a 30mm RWS on top of the helicopter hangar.
As for the front end of the ship, the model has a 76mm main gun, an Aselsan FCR and what appears to be the Thales SMART-S Mk 2 surveillance radar. If its the Mk 2 radar, it is the same one as fitted on the LCS.
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Well just like the Russians with the Su-30s and the non Russian systems we specified the Turks will be a wee bit disappointed that we're going for less Turkish systems than they'd like.
Lol. Now they wanted 2 different VLS effector to 2 different class of ship.
Before everyone's judging K-SAM, 2 of our current boats are rocking expired SAM while the rest of them didnt have any SAM at all
No, they are not.
My comment
The radar model looks like a Thales NS110 rather than the SMART-S Mk2.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEw0uC1W4AIqtkZ.jpg
Which is strange as turkiye now locally made the Smart-S Mk2 and putting it on all of their warships. But very good IMO as the NS110 is way better than the Smart-S Mk2. Currently even the UAE gowind uses the NS110, as is Egypt Meko-200EN and UK Arrowhead 140 Type 31 Inspiration class. Personally I wish our Gowinds will be fitted with NS110 too.
As for the armament, why Korean VLS instead of Turkiye VLS (the MIDLAS with Hisar-D missile)? Very strange. Will it be FFBMW or fully armed? Actually the ship-launched missile is called K-SAAM, K-SAM is land-based S350 SAM system made-in korea. The K-SAAM has 20km range, has dual IR and Radar seeker (unlike Mica either or) and something also not like Mica, it can be quadpacked.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0mDpk_aAAENMFD.jpg
Would like to know why is the main gun going back to 76mm (because turkish made and cheaper than BAE 57mm?)
I am expecting CIWS of at least Gokdeniz, but looks like just a RCWS, the ASELSAN SMASH 30mm.
I would like to know more of this
1) engine? Still with gas turbines? Top speed?
2) CMS system
3) AShM system. NSM? Atmaca? Cakir? Korean missile?
4) Hangar size
5) ship cost
6) when will it be completed. I feel like it defeats the purpose of getting these in the 1st place if we are only getting them after the first few gowinds is commissioned. The reason it is a corvette is because we urgently need ships due to the delays with the Gowinds.
Going with korean SAM. Are they looking at korean SAM also for the Gowinds? Going korean, why not just buy korean ships in the 1st place. We can buy other stuff from Turkiye, like APMM ships for instance.
Interesting... Turkish ship with Korean SAM. Why not Hisar SAM?
…. - “Would like to know why is the main gun going back”
Was 57mm ever the RMN’s preference or was it selected for the LCS because the local industry has a vested interest? That’s the question.
It does not “defeat the purpose” because [again] the Batch 2s would still have been acquired even if the LCSs had all been delivered on schedule. It would “defeat the purpose” if the Batch 2s were acquired to fill in the gap so to speak like how the Laksamanas were ostensibly acquired to compensate for the late deliveries of the Lekius.
BTW the reason it’s a “corvette” is because we can’t afford all the LCSs we’d like and as the RMN has pointed out not all roles require a LCS and certain roles can be performed by a LMS at fraction of the cost. We urgently need hulls but that would still be the case even if the LCSs has no issues and arrived on schedule. No conflation.
Specifying a South Korean missile for the LCSs would lead to a whole new set of issues. As it stands even integrating and certifying European to European stuff can prove challenging.
Zaft - “Lol. Now they wanted 2 different VLS effector to 2 different class of ship”
Firstly it was due to circumstances . Secondary what’s an “effector”?
… - “I am expecting CIWS”
Probably due to the cost factor. I’ll tell you what I’m expecting. Will be a bummer if we don’t get it : data link. Also would be nice if there was an embarked UAS but that’s me getting ahead of myself.
… - “M. Are they looking at korean SAM also for the Gowinds?”
No. Why would we? Specifying a South Korean missile for the LCS would create a whole new set of issues. As it is; integrating and certifying European stuff to European stuff can be challenging.
… - “Going korean, why not just buy korean ships in the 1st place”
More politically expedient to buy from Turkey; assuming they have what we desire. Why did we get a ATGW from Turkey? Was the AV-8 selected on merit?
The South Koreans would love to work with us. Way before they went into Indonesia and the Philippines they had already offered us various forms of collaboration but we were undecided and had our own way of doing things.
Korean SAM close to Russia S-350.
"Memorandum Persefahaman (Mou) antara Widad Business Group (Malaysia) dan Hanwha Aerospace (Korea Selatan), melibatkan kerjasama" look like MLRS?
Assuming it's K-SAAM and they will be quad packed in those VLS cells,these ships will have 16 anti air missiles which is IMO not bad for a ship this size. But there goes the commonality with the Gowinds
Well at least T⁸LDM will get around 8 guided missile vessels by 2027 after almost 10 years only having 4 ships.