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• So now we have seen 2 claims against boustead regarding the sub refit project. This is most probably due to deadlines being missed rather than technical details unmet.

  But what i am still intrigued is that there is still no claims by the government against boustead for the gowind project. That should tell something about where the delays are coming from...

• Legally the contract has not been determined yet. Thats why cant determine the damages. One way is to use the very long delay to terminate the contract, Mindef pay what is due to Boustead and then take out the ship to be completed elsewhere. Once the ships completed the damages can be ascertained. Baru can take action. Alternatively go for arbitration

• @...

  You meant to say that the Gowind delays are due to the government and not Boustead itself?

• @ASM
  It is probably due to both parties. Bousted made some technical mistakes while government didn't give money. Things to take note if not mistaken we already pay RM6 billion so at least we should have 4 LCS being near completion. The equipment purchased was also ordered very late in regards to the contract so maybe we are still waiting for those equipment to arrive here.

• BNS should shared building the ship with others shipyard.. Share not monopolised by it self..

• The complication is Boustead is partly owned by LTAT

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  They want to fully owned it by buying out shareholders

• http://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/indonesia-looking-at-iver-huitfeldt-class-frigate-to-boost-tni-als-blue-water-force/

  Interestingly the Type 31 is also said as being proposed for Singapore’s MRCV requirement.

• Probably Type 31 can be replaced Lekiu class as AAW Frigates in the future if gov@mindef/ RMN consider on it.

• Congratulations to Indonesia on the signing for the iver huitfeldt frigate

  http://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/indonesia-signs-preamble-contract-for-first-iver-huitfeldt-variant-frigate

  That is a great frigate and great value for Indonesian taxpayers money. I am still hoping we could follow suit and get the Type 31e version of the iver huitfeldt frigate.

• Congrats to Indonesia. We should choose Iver Huitfeldt from the get go but it was still being built in 2011 and not available for export yet when we signed the contracts for Gowinds yet the 1st gowind were laid down 5 years later in 2016 which meant Iver Huitfeldt was ready for export and can be built without any modifications like we done to our gowind.

  Advantage of Iver Huitfeldt
  - Very long range radar (up to 1000km for ballistic missile detection & tracking, and China have ballistic missiles)
  - Carry multiple times more number of more capable missiles
  - Longer range
  - Have 3x the cooling and power currently needed
  - Large hull for upgradability in future
  - Cost much less to buy ($340 million fully equipped vs $460+ million)

  Disadvantages
  - Larger RCS signature (less stealthy?)
  - Some say it is too large and too heavy for RMN yet we still want to operate larger MRSS
  - Cost more to operate (not really much as its engine is 11k hp while Gowind is 10k hp, and it can cruise at 18 knots on 1 engine)

  I cant seem to find any reason that our Gowind have advantage over Iver Huitfeldt other than being more stealthier hence why we should go for a couple or 3 hulls of Iver Huitfeldt for long range air defence which RMN is seriously lacking.

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  The Iver was never considered for the SGPV later LCS as it is simply too big for the then requirements. As I reported before the ones that were offered for the project were Dutch, French, South Korean and the British, if I remember correctly. The Dutch and French were shortlisted in the final stretch though as Boustead had partnered with DCNS, the old name of Naval Group, it was just a formality then. The navy then was happy with the Dutch Sigma design, which was later chosen by Indonesia for its frigate project